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#1 2008-04-17 08:34:38
- yongjin.yoon
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Why power elite has so much??
Today's Rothkoprf's talk about global power elite was very interesting. As many people knows, recently capitalism and globaliztion lead to the severe inequility of money, power, and politics etc among people. As times goes, this inequility is getting severe. Especially, when I heard about the top hedge fund CEO's salary which is about 3 billion on average, it was quite shock to me. During his talk, when he asked "what do you think about this system?" and the first thing I thought was "I need to survive in this harsh system.." This inequality makes me feeling somewhat unfair but I think the power elites deserve to achieve this since most of them sacrificed or spent their time on the hot spot at the right time with their keen vision.
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#2 2008-04-20 20:26:42
- wei.wei
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Re: Why power elite has so much??
The other reason power elite has so much might be they have more power to influence policy-making in their favor. This is the part that makes me worry. It is not realistic to expect power elite to be self-disciplinary. This makes me wonder whether the power elite will get and more and more power and whether there is a balance point.
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#3 2008-04-21 12:01:23
- chengli.ong
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Re: Why power elite has so much??
I don't know about the power elite 'deserving' their vast power and wealth... don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that they don't work damn hard to get where they are, or that we should take away their riches Robin-Hood-style, it's just that, as Mr Rothkopf said, there's a lot of luck involved and all things aren't equal, not to mention your childhood background and opportunities, or lack thereof.
I agree with Wei Wei's point, that it is worrying that the power elite has so much influence. Furthermore, as Mr Rothkopf said, the demographics of the elite are so skewed that some groups are in danger of getting left out and screwed over by decisions made by the elite that they aren't a part of. I don't know if there is a balance point... hopefully the situation will change in the future such that the global power elite has a much more balanced and representative demographic representation. I don't think it's going to happen automatically though... there's no reason why this problem should be self-correcting.
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#4 2008-04-21 17:39:41
- diana.ajuria
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Re: Why power elite has so much??
I also wanted to add to the idea of the power elite "deserving" the immense amount of money and power that they have acquired. Clearly they are motivated and very capable people. However, I just cannot get past the fact that in our current world there are 1100 people who have more money than the bottom 2.5 million (I think it was million and not billion) people at the other end of the money and power scale.
Mr. Rothkopf mentioned that overall the poverty level has risen, but that the difference between the rich and the poor has never been so great, especially with the shrinking middle class. It almost makes me feel as though the problem is that these people can acquire so much, and that this is seen as a goal one should strive toward. He mentioned jokingly during his talk that he was pretty sure everyone in the room wants to be these people (clearly this was an exaggeration for effect), but maybe there is a problem in the sense that success is being measured by greater and greater achievements. That people are so focused on making this much money in order to survive and compete with the rest of the top 10%.
It just left me wondering what is going to happen in the future, but I do take solace in the fact that Mr. Rothkopf was so optimistic about the future of the global power elite.
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#5 2008-04-21 18:56:06
- j.b..heil
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Re: Why power elite has so much??
I would also add that, as David pointed out, the power elites often fall short of the "ethics of leadership." This is something I wish he would have gone into more detail. The question in my mind is how these ethics should be determined, and then how to get them assimilated by the power elite and actually put into practice. I expect this is very difficult to accomplish, and I don't think David necessarily has a solution...most of his talk seemed to center on a description of the power elite problem, and much less on a specific, suggested solution. I do agree with the concerns expressed by Wei, Chengli, and Diana...perhaps if the ethics question is given enough attention (starting with us and our colleagues at the leading universities), something good may come out of it.
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#6 2008-04-22 14:24:22
- matthew.franking
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Re: Why power elite has so much??
What I would have been interested in (and it may be inthe book) is the percentage of the power elites who derive their power as a result of companies they've founded without the help of friends in hte government, etc. And, do power elites tend to favor entrepreneurship or do tend to disparage people doing their own thing? One would think that because they got their power as the result of a consolidation of something (capital, people, legal power, etc) that the tenedency would be to disparage it. But it's a bit of a catch-22, because if they disparage it then what is one of the greatest driving forces of the global economy --and hence their own wealth, power, and position -- is entrepreneurship.
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#7 2008-04-30 16:24:23
- yonah.berwaldt
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Re: Why power elite has so much??
Compound interest is the most powerful force in the universe. It's either working for you or against you. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer because the middle class and everyone below have essentially no financial literacy. "A sample of high-school pupils aged 17 or 18 gave correct answers to barely half of a set of questions about personal finance and economics posed in 2006 by researchers at the State University of New York, Buffalo. Getting it right on the money. http://www.economist.com/displaystory.c … d=10958702 The Economist." Change this, fix a lot of inequality.
To correct a previous forum poster's comment: The richest 1000 have more money than the poorest 2.5 Billion. Basic calculation: The richest 1000 people have about 10^9 dollars. If it were 2.5 million, then richest / poorest would be 10^12 / 2.5*10^6 = 4*10^5 which is 400K which is far far more than the average amount that the poorest people have. The correct number is 2.5 billion, which would suggest the poorest people have on average a net worth of about $400, a far more realistic number.
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#8 2008-06-06 23:40:09
- ricky.yean
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Re: Why power elite has so much??
I actually thought some of the points he made did not have an economic basis to prove his theories, but I liked it because he is in the circle, and he understand and sees the problem by traversing in and out of the superclass by writing this book, etc.
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#9 2008-06-07 01:20:01
- daniel.espinosa
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Re: Why power elite has so much??
I agree with ricky.yean. I do not necessarily agree with all the facts that David gave to us in order to sustain his claim about today's superclass. Maybe the richest 1000 are in fact richer than the poorest 2.5 billion people, maybe not, but I do believe he did a great job in actually raising awareness that something must be done. I'm sure very few people will actually argue to him that this superclass exists and that it in fact has a level of power disproportionate to the rest of the population. I really liked that he knows what he is doing and that he is actually interested in this very interesting topic.
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