MS&E 472 - Entrepreneurial Thought Leaders Seminar Series

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#1 2008-02-20 00:57:30

Raghav.Goel
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"Get a good graphics guy"

The was the striking point me in Brett's talk. I dont think I have heard this from any other entrepreneur... as I earlier thought that what does a graphics guy have to do in the picture.. its abt the product.. but then he ties it well to his next lesson "Act big and stay humble". Good graphics send a good message to your prospective customers that you are serious and committed to your product and hence "acting big" and 3 guys sharing a room in Ramada is staying humble.
I liked his comment on being professional and being someone who can go out there and talk professionally is very important. From his talk it sounded that his success was more of consistent hard work, a new idea, focused market but a conservative game plan. All this make it difficult for me to translate starting a venture to risks an entrepreneur has to take because it seemed a pretty safe plan for Brett and being acquired by Google was just a matter of time.

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#2 2008-02-20 01:18:47

Tanmay.Mishra
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Re: "Get a good graphics guy"

I agree it was indeed interesting to see the way the two ideas were tied together. To appear bigger and more professional as a company irrespective of the size, a good front end (a graphics guys capable of doing all designwork) is extremely important. It is capable of sending a completely different message as far as the standards and levels of commitment of the company are concerned.
Even with a fantastic product, if there is lack of support or buy in from the customers. a company cannot succeed.
I feel, even though the game plan looked conservative, besides hard work, his philosophy of " acting big and staying humble" made a difference in the way things turned out.

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#3 2008-02-20 01:29:57

Fuetsch.Elena
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Re: "Get a good graphics guy"

Mr. Crosby seemed to project this very image during his speech, although sometimes I wondered how humble he was being. For the sake of the audience, I think it was great when he bragged about what he did well and was honest about what he didn't. I also thought it was interesting that he included in personal life in the presentation - my first reaction was that it didn't belong there. However, upon reflection, that inclusion made it seem like his success was more global - he wasn't just in the business to be in the business.

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#4 2008-02-20 02:15:51

Nicole.Lundblad
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Re: "Get a good graphics guy"

I can't argue with Brett's advice here.  His priorities in this area are very similar to Google--they both place a high importance on good front-end (having worked on Google's User Experience team, I've witnessed the importance Google places on a product's interface).  I also wanted to agree with Elena's comment about the inclusion of Brett's personal life in his presentation - I, too, initially had the same reaction of wondering why he had so many personal pictures and stories.  But I realize that when you're an entrepreneur, your work and personal life are often too intermixed to separate (such as Brett finally closing the Google deal during his wedding).

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#5 2008-02-20 10:53:02

Kenneth.Wee
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Re: "Get a good graphics guy"

I agree that having a good work/life mix is very important, especially when you want an entrepreneurial career. I think that when your career demands that you are available 24/7, spouses can be very unhappy unless you are going in the right direction, and we know that many entrepreneurs fail. You can't really put your personal life on hold all the time. I think that finding a way to accommodate your workers' or colleagues' personal lives is very important for long-term stability. Even in very dynamic environments, you need a 100% commitment from employees.

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#6 2008-02-20 12:23:12

Carlyn.Sylvester
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Re: "Get a good graphics guy"

"Get a good graphics guy." I found this comment highly insightful. While we have spent much time during this lecture series thus far listening to people discuss what goes on behind the scenes, it was refreshing to hear Brett Crosby mention the importance of outward appearance. After all, much of the success of a company relies on visual advertising and visual stimulation, for example. While a good product will no doubt attract clients, customers, and consumers, a visually impressive facade can further success even more.

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#7 2008-02-20 13:46:54

Brandon.Heller
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Re: "Get a good graphics guy"

I'd like to highlight what Brett said that really stood out: that one of the reasons Google was acquired was that Urchin had projected a professional image, through good graphics design and a mature brand.  You could really see how the brand image had matured over time, going from the cartoon sun-like urchin to a more stylized, large-company style logo, as well as the ads looking more mature.  That said, you could argue that better technology was the key to the Google Urchin acquisition, because their product was faster at data processing than rivals.

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#8 2008-02-20 14:12:14

Patrick.Mihelich
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Re: "Get a good graphics guy"

I think Brett is making a valuable point with his advice to "get a good graphics guy," but I wonder if he is overstating the importance. After all, it is the product that sells, not the graphic design. Good graphics will not cover up a shoddy product long-term.

What good graphics can do is avoid a negative first impression, as a customer or business partner may assume that shoddy graphics are symptomatic of other deficiencies in the product. This is valuable, of course. But compare, for example, Paul Graham's advice to "deliver [your product] as informally as possible," in order to "(a) save all the effort you would have had to expend to make them look impressive, and (b) avoid the danger of fooling yourself as well as your audience." PG went around pitching Viaweb in jeans and a t-shirt and did all right in the end. Good graphics are nice, but it seems to me that the Urchin acquisition hinged mainly on the merits of their product.

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#9 2008-02-20 14:37:40

Wen.Mao
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Re: "Get a good graphics guy"

Urchin was successful that it got acquired by Google. I can tell this from the speaker's talk. Work-life balance cannot be guarranted in the beginning stage of a company. Although it doesn't have many people, everyone should have the common understanding or commitment that they have to work extremely hard without any guaranted financial return. It's really a difficult time for those who have a family. Any reason might be one for you to quit the journey of the adventure.

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#10 2008-02-20 15:25:58

Joan.Hanson
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Re: "Get a good graphics guy"

I liked the advice of get a good graphics person, and furthermore that this person should be good at both print and website.  This does seem like a good investment once a product is on the market.  However, I agree that this alone cannot cover up a poor product.  As well as I know many small businesses I've bought stuff from didn't have a website or good graphics, but if the product was there, I still bought it.  I also think any website is better than a perfect looking one, as it is frustrating as a user when products don't have websites.  Also, an easy to navigate website is better than a pretty one, as this has been another one of my frustrations in my experiences.

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#11 2008-02-20 15:35:13

Irys.Kornbluth
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Re: "Get a good graphics guy"

I don't think Brett Crosby was overstating the importance of having a talented graphic designer.  In his experiences, the graphics side of Urchin (the great advertisments, the changing Urchin man on the original website, the poster done by Shepard Fairey, etc.) was an important side of the business.  After all, a quarter of the slide show was about the different advertisments they had put out over the years.  As an artist, I was flattered by the amount of respect he showed for art as an important step towards professionalism, and I agree with him.  Crosby already had a great product, but he took his project a step further, had fun with it, and gave it an image to match the work that they were doing inside the business.  I wish all entrepreneurs would have this level of respect for graphic design, because I believe that graphic designers will help a company exponentially and give it their all if the leaders of a business trust them and collaborate with them.  After all, why NOT bring in the expertise of a graphic artist?  Adding another perspective and mind to the team can always help, and artists are very passionate about what they do.

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#12 2008-02-20 15:50:41

Ricky.Yean
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Re: "Get a good graphics guy"

This is rather good advice.   I had an experience where I was impressed by someone with multiple ideas for startups.  Not only did he have ideas, he found the appropriate names that were available for the companies, and have made logos around those names.  Because of that, his ideas had a much bigger impact on my perception, and I thought the ideas were better because of the completeness of thought conveyed through the graphics design.  It's a representation of your idea and an embodiment of your company that you can't do w/o.

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#13 2008-02-20 16:33:22

Christian.Dalit
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Re: "Get a good graphics guy"

I completely agree that creating a visual brand is incredibly important.  A professional logo, letterhead, and business cards can really differentiate your company from your competitors.  These days, such graphic designs are inexpensive and fast.  When starting a business, it is important to maintain a clear and unique image.  Use professional graphics to increase your credibility and position within the competitive landscape.

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#14 2008-03-20 21:14:26

Matin.Movassate
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Re: "Get a good graphics guy"

It was pretty evident - given Brett Crosby's emphasis on his former company's advertisements, product promotionals, and web page designs - that Brett Crosby places quite the priority on presentation and design. It seems reasonable enough: its the easiest way to differentiate a product without actually changing the capacity/innovativeness of the product itself. Many firms seems to think that because enormous companies like Apple manage to let their design and marketing prowess lead the success of their products, they can get away with the same thing. As Brett Crosby showed us, sometimes they can, but oftentimes we have small companies sacrificing improving the functionality of their products just to wrap it all under some aesthetically pleasing sheen. This may work for big companies, but is this the right approach for most small firms?

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