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#1 2007-11-28 19:16:41
- sara.snyder
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Litigation Won't Eliminate Piracy
This statement made by Ashwin is compelling - particularly given its ethical as well as economic precepts. From a business standpoint, Ashwin argued that by providing an efficient, better service, BitTorrent would gain the upper hand over piracy in a competitive market. What he did not mention, but which I think is equally worthwhile to discuss, is that this practical business strategy couples with an improvement in user respect for property rights. Finding these doubly beneficial solutions in a free market is exciting and laudable. The challenge will be to maintain the high quality service that will draw consumers toward the product that also happens to be the more ethical and legal!
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#2 2007-12-01 14:11:27
- Lauren.Kelley-Chew
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Re: Litigation Won't Eliminate Piracy
I agree that the tension between what is cheapest/highest quality and what is ethical/legal is important to consider. I thought Ashwin's description of how he started working with the media companies was especially interesting in this regard. He recalled telling the media executives that, through his technology, tons of people were stealing media (even just in the time of their meeting). From there, he proposed to work out a deal that would help both parties harness the profit-potential of a pre-existing process. There is a certain cyclical nature of this, in the sense that Ashwin produced BitTorrent, which enabled people to rip off the media companies, which then allowed Ashwin to go back to the media companies and say, "let's make a deal to solve your problem." Ethics and legality plays into this in an interesting way, raising several questions, including if it's ethical to profit from a piracy-based market that you yourself created.
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#3 2007-12-01 21:32:33
- anil.antony
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Re: Litigation Won't Eliminate Piracy
I completely agree with Aswin's words that litigation will never eliminate piracy . The P2P softwares were used to download a load of illegal music and video files. Howver, it should be noted that the media sales are down for a number of years even before the P2P download craze started . The reasons will be many like changing taste of people or even decreasing quality of the media content these days.
Howver, the world market is increasing exponentially due to globalization and P2P illegal downloads are too rampant there . There is no way to control them by litigation and that is a huge portion of the entire pie to be ignored. The only way to do something about it is to form strategic partnerships with the download software companies with win win situations than litigation and by providing quality content at cheaper price.
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#4 2007-12-03 12:55:31
- shiraz
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Re: Litigation Won't Eliminate Piracy
Litigation has not "eliminated" crime either but crime still exists in fact controlling crime and piracy is the goal of litigation.
Perhaps an important thing to ask is how to make knowledge and content available for the poor and underprivileged.
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#5 2007-12-05 08:35:46
- grill1
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Re: Litigation Won't Eliminate Piracy
I do not believe anyone has promoted litigation at "eliminating" any legal activity, so I felt that comment leveraged an unrealistic view to support his point, which did not add credibility. Some people may have viewed his comments about his users stealing IP was in a sense blackmailing the executives into working with his company or take his company to court. I suspect media executives have analyzed the business cases of trying to shutdown every service which provide theives the ability to steal IP or working with a leading service to capture as much revenue as possible. As long as a company does not actively promote the illegal use of their services and in fact promotes legal use, shouldn't the users be held legally accountable for misuse of a product or service rather than the OEM? Guns do not kill people, people kill people; or at least the courts seem to support that theory. I was very impressed by the risk he had taken with an unproven business model and the revenue he has generated.
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#6 2007-12-05 16:00:23
- jvhanson
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Re: Litigation Won't Eliminate Piracy
As a note to the last post, I believe the US government firmly believes that making something illegal should help to eliminate that something. Statistics may prove otherwise, and perhaps the most notable example I can think of is with the War on Drugs. However, having spoken and heard a lecture from a DEA representative in a class called Drugs, Crime and Society at another University, his official position was still that having drugs illegal was going to reduce and eventually eliminate use - despite that the statics proved otherwise. I bring this up becuase any law is put into practice by imposing consequences if one breaks that law. For drugs this is criminal, as is pirating music. The law is put into place so people will not break it, and consequences are such to act as a deterrent.
Obviously with our overcrowded prisons, socioeconomically unequal justice system, and many "criminals" walking around completely free, there is no eliminating of the illegal activity, and sometimes it is argued that there is not even a reduction in illegal activity. But our own government makes decisions everyday based on this ideal - so I believe the speaker made a valid argument. In fact, your comment gives me hope that future generations will look at crime and society a little differently than our past generations did. Maybe many things that are simply illegal, should also or instead be attached through a different means, as he is trying to do with pirated music.
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#7 2007-12-15 03:30:20
- iperepel
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Re: Litigation Won't Eliminate Piracy
I think you are comparing apples to oranges. In one case it's protection of the public (drugs) and the other is protection of copyright (music). A company does have a right to defend itself against piracy, and I don't think that government has much say in that. Drugs are a public policy debate that has nothing to do with the issue.
I agree with another reader who points out that while litigation does not elimate, it reduces it. I don't think there ever will be a law that will eliminate the "crime".
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